Lost Season 5 Episode 16 and 17 Season Finale – The Incident

i cant seem to forget about aaron..because claire had been hanging around the cabin with her and jacks father's(christiane's) image..aaron was born on the island..he is a descendant of christiane and a relative of jack..jack delivers the bomb abd christiane speaks for jacob..also remember the psychic waay back telling claire all of that stuff about her baby needing to be raised by her? also..if that statue was the goddess of fertility..what does that say about this whole previously mentioned realtionship..will aaron come to power as a ruler next season? i do know that aaron was related to moses..and in the last episode the "fake" locke is compared to moses walking right up to jacob..also daniels mother and whidmore know what will happen to daniel(getting shot by the younger version of his mother)..perhaps all of the crap that has happened was to get kate to give up the baby before leaving the island so that he can be taken and will rule the island..just my thoughts..

before leaving to go back to the island*

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I actually think the statue is Taweret....Goddess of Fertility!!!

Yup it is :) I was sad and did some research on this and it turns out she is a goddess of fertility.

I reckon what happened was the statue helped women get pregnant a lot easier on the island but since the statue was destroyed (i reckon due to the explosion in this episode which is why it is called the incident), woman have not been able to have any children and if they do get pregnant they will die. But, that is just my theory.

Also quick question - how the hell did Sun end up pregnant? I mean Jin had problems with conceiving and during the time she got pregnant the statue was already destroyed. It's been ages since I've seen lost, I must recap before I see season 6.

It wasn't Jin's baby, it was her English tutor's

Yes it was Jin's. Remember when Juliet took sun to have the ultrasound scan and when she calculated the date the baby was conceived it turned out he was conceived ON the island. That meant that it was Jin's baby, but sun was still preocupied because if she got pregnant on the island that meant that she was going to die before her third trimester, luckily she got off the island before that time

Of course it was Jin's

@frecklesfan

frecklesfan :there is a biblical reference to Jacob. He had a twin brother called Essau. They fought in their mother’s womb and all the way through their life. Is Jacob’s enemy (the guy in the opening scene on the beach) Essau?Also, Jacob’s 12th son was called Benjamin.

awesome theory...i absolutely would not have thought of that but very legit theory and good thinking...i haven't watched all of the episodes for this season only the last couple but i'm getting ready to watch all of them straight through, i normally do that with all of the lost seasons because i can't handle waiting...but i'm gonna watch and then come back with some possible theories and questions i'm sure of...good theories by everyone...

What a fantastic finale!
I want so much more!
Okay theory time!
What i believe is at the beginning of the movie the guy talking to jacob is the Locke that told ben to kill jacob. And that jacobs sprit and soul will transfer into the Locke in the container as he is a "Candidate". That is the favour that Jacob Asked ILana, And in the begining when That guy is talking to jacob he has so much hate and jellousy towards him which could mean that he is Jacobs brother...."for every Good theres an Evil' yeah.. and Jacob was the gifted brother... AND I JUST WATCHED THE BEGINNING AGAIN AND JUST CLOCKED ON THAT!!!... the 'jacobs brother guy' said " One day soon, One final LOOPHOLE...
and at the end Jacob said to 'fake' Locke.. So i guess you found your loophole...
so all of this 815 and everything happening could of all been just so jacobs brother could get his revenge on jacob... it could be...
theres just so many possibilities!

SEASON 6!!>>>>> WE NEED ANSWERS!!
if its going to be the final season...
WE
NEED
ANSWERS!
XD

Btw im not a neek..
Im just really Stoned and Lost is trippy!

there is a biblical reference to Jacob. He had a twin brother called Essau. They fought in their mother's womb and all the way through their life. Is Jacob's enemy (the guy in the opening scene on the beach) Essau?
Also, Jacob's 12th son was called Benjamin.

Amazing final.

for the theories.

Jacob is somehow the representation of God (good) and the other guy at the beginning is the evil. That's why Jacob said there was hope for men on the island at the beginning and the other guy thought they would kill each other etc. The war announced by Widmore was not between Him and Ben but between those two guys. From the draw in the Temple I assume that the bad guy is also the smokey, which is why he can take human form such as Ben's daughter (so Ben will kill Jacob) and John (so that Richard shows him and Ben where Jacob is). I think Widmore is with the evil guy which is why he sent back John to the island because he knew Richard and the others would listen to him if the smokey takes his form. Ben is just nothing.. And i'm very surprised of it because I always thought him and Richard were the big guys. Richard is in the side of Jacob thats why he knows "What lies in the shadow of the statue" and the answer was by the way something like "The man who protects us" so in other words Jacob. So that will be season 6 the explanation of who are those two guys (good and bad) and well what the hell happens after the bomb explodes (is it the incident or it changed things?)

By the way the "Help me was normally from Jacob because this John was the real one

For the whispers, it is just the sign that the others are near (Ben said it in an episode)

CANT WAIT!

Hey I loved your theory!!Lost is the best series I've watched so far

Ok people want theories and I'm gonna set the ball rolling.
My initial theory of the island being on a loop is still looking to perhaps be true. But it'd be a bit boring.

However I have some more exciting theories for you to think about.

The opening scene of Jacob and another man sitting on a beach shows the second man say to Jacob "Do you have any idea how much I want to kill you?" and at the end, Fake Locke kills Jacob. This suggests to me that the man at the start is also Fake Locke at the end. Perhaps he can shift his image. He could have been Christian Sheppard, Mr Ekos brother and the smoke monster. He is like the islands security and by killing Jacob he is protecting the island from doom.

Also, the ship on the horizon that Jacob has brought to the island at the beginning of this episode is the Black Rock. I think this is pretty certain because he says they're going to bring destruction, and we've already heard multiple times about some "disease" killing everyone who was on the Black Rock.

My final theory is based on Jacobs death. Yes, we saw Jacob die. One idea I have is that, if he is such a God-like figure then even though his body is dead, he can transfer himself to another person. In this finale where we saw Frank Lapidus on a raft with Llana etc he overheard them saying he was a possible 'candidate'. A candidate for what? Perhaps to be Jacobs next body. Maybe Jacob knew he would end up dying, which is why we saw a flashback where he asked Llana for help when she was in hospital. I think he asked her to bring Locke's dead body to the island along with Lapidus so he could have a "candidate" to use as a body.

An alternative view to take is this- Jacob got killed. But Jack blew up the hydrogen bomb meaning they'll never land on the island. Therefore Locke etc won't ever be on the island and Jacobs death wouldn't happen. So by dying, Jacob is ensuring that he actually lives.


Any thoughts on this?

1st comment:D

I don't want it to finish nooooooooooooo :'(

Im about to watch the season finale..... so saad

Hey Andrei,could u just split the video in 2 parts or something like that,please? I cannot see what happens in the last 10 minutes,because of the Megavideo player.When I watch more than 72 minutes,it stops and says as usual I can´t carry on watching more... :__________(. Oh please...I´ve been waiting 2 see what happens at the end 3 days now... I can´t even sleep properly just thinkin about that... :'(.And all the Supernova links and others like these have been removed apparently..don´t know what else to do

omg it stops 72 mins into it, stupid megavideo. now i gotta wait an hour to see the end. grrrrr

Were going to have to wait another 6 months now! :(

OMG I hate that LOST has to end with cliff hangers. I want to know it all now. Don't wanna have to wait. I hope it doesn't all reset so that they don't know each other. An' what's goin on with Claire and Christian?? Soo many unanswered questions still. If season 6 is gonna be the last one it's gotta be jammed full of answers otherwise we're not gonna find out about everything!!

Ohhhhhhh... and what matters after? What about the monster, about future of survives of 815,...

ok where are all the comments? now i have seen it i was gonna check out all the theories but the page hardly loads up now and its been stripped out.

I need heresay and rumours!!

Fine well I think the island is Atlantis. Thats it no more detail.. feel free to ignore me if u like

guys i have a (rly bugging me) question:Who the heck was the guy that told john “help me” with that creepy voice the first time john and ben went to the cabin??? If it was actually “the bad guy” why would he say help me?? And also what is the deal with the whispers that we hear on the island every now and then??

Hey read Laf99's post, I think it's really good and will answer your question

Great so now we have to wait another 6 months :(

this link isn't working :-(

kimy-saoum :guys i have a (rly bugging me) question:Who the heck was the guy that told john “help me” with that creepy voice the first time john and ben went to the cabin??? If it was actually “the bad guy” why would he say help me?? And also what is the deal with the whispers that we hear on the island every now and then??

Exactly, that's my question. and another thing, who told John to move the island? We saw John going to that cottage and coming back with an advise from Jacob, "you have to move the islan", and later on, we hear from John that he had not seen Jacob! correct me if things happened another way.

well actually the one that tells john to move the island is christian (Jacks's father) when christian told him to move the island he saids he was speaking for Jacob....Not that he was Jacob..

@kimy-saoum
i think he said "kill me",didn't he?
and it was jacob
something that confuses me....at the start of the episode,we see jacob in a much earlier time(i think this is correct)-why do they all have american accents when,at this time,the only american inhabitants were probably native americans(american indians)????
is it really 6months to the next series?????

ahh!!!the only thing i hate about this show is that wen your done watching and episode it leaves you with no answered questions and about 4 billion more questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love that, it makes you more obssesed lol

@Joe

First we got the same theory for the guy at the beginning

Second, there is no doubt that the ship is the black rock, by by destruction, I think he was talking about humans in general.

I don't think Jacob is dead, I don't think he can die... This scene is not done, with his friends coming with Richard, I think something will happen.

I don't think that the "they changed the past so that their plane lands" theory works. Simply because it is too stupid for amazing writers such as Lost ones. It's like having an end saying that it was just a dream. It sucks.

@Pukima

It was Christian Shepard (Jack's father) and I beleive that it was the evil guy at the beggining who took the body of Chritian (by the way we saw him yhou just forgot

weve to wait 9 months actually

1.The beggining scene is set around the 1700's,the ship is a spanish millitary/exploration vessel
2.maybe one of its purposes is to find the fountain of youth
3.the ships captain is "Richard" (a Richard who has never scene or been to the Island and has never met Jacob)
4.the ship opens fire and is what causes the distruction of the statue
5.Jacob forgives Richard and Richard in turn becomes his most loyal follower in return Jacob gives him the power of eternal youth that way he can serve Jacob eternaly.
6.end scenes Jacob when saying "there coming" is refering to Richard Allana and the gang entering the temple maybe Jacob doesn't want to be seen in that way or maybe only one being good or evil can occupy the temple and be seen as the islands leader who know.........Lost is awsesome and so is this site and its many fans love to read peoples comments are great

normally watch lost on the ps3 using its browser some reason all the comments regarding this episode were not shown have read them now on the p.c complements to comments left by JOE and LF99 great theory's if not truth's lol,agree that the ship is the black rock and that it attacks the statue destroying most of it and that it is carrying the disease still think that "RICHARD" is on the vessel if maybe not as the captain maybe as a prisoner who Jacob free's and cures,also I reckon that Hurley is the candidate that Jacob has chosen he made sure tat he went back in time maybe to protect him from Ben and the fake locke.

normally watch lost on the ps3 using its browser some reason all the comments regarding this episode were not shown have read them now on the p.c complements to comments left by JOE and LF99 great theory's if not truth's lol,agree that the ship is the black rock but also believe my theory that it attacks the statue destroying most of it and that it is carrying the disease still think that "RICHARD" is on the vessel if maybe not as the captain maybe as a prisoner who Jacob free's and cures,also I reckon that Hurley is the candidate that Jacob has chosen he made sure tat he went back in time maybe to protect him from Ben and the fake locke.

still LostFan here lol normally watch lost on the ps3 using its browser some reason all the comments regarding this episode were not shown have read them now on the p.c complements to comments left by JOE and LF99 great theory's if not truth's lol,agree that the ship is the black rock and that it is carrying a disease but also believe my theory that it attacks the statue destroying most of it still think that "RICHARD" is on the vessel if maybe not as the captain maybe as a prisoner or ships medic who Jacob free's and cures,also I reckon that Hurley is the candidate that Jacob has chosen maybe thats why he made sure that he went back in time maybe to protect him from Ben and the fake locke.

i was watching the episode and got the message like i have watched for 72 minutes and have to wait for 54 minutes to continue. its 10 hrs past now but still nothing. any help? do i have to click somewhere?